TOWN OF HAGUE
PLANNING BOARD
APRIL 7, 2011
TIME: 7:00pm
Chairman Siwek explained that due to the
constraints of SEQR the order of tonight’s Planning Board agenda was
rearranged.
CALL MEETING TO ORDER:
Chairman, EJ Siwek called the meeting to order at 7:00pm
INTRODUCTION OF BOARD MEMBERS:
Chairman, EJ Siwek, Richard Frasier, Bruce Clark, Pam Peterson, John Brown, Mike Cherubini, Martin Fitzgerald, ZEO, Cathy Clark and Recording Secretary Kim Coffin.
SEQR DETERMINATION FOR:
1. WILSON (25.1-1-17 & 18) Summit Drive & Route 8 (OCI)
Bruce Clark prepared and read the following Resolution for a Negative Declaration regarding the Wilson application. A roll call vote was held at its conclusion.
NEGATIVE DECLARATION
Town of Hague Planning Board
Wilson/Floor Subdivision (Section 25, Block 1, Parcels 17 & 18
Lake Woods at Hague
Pursuant to the provision of Article 8 of the Environment Conservation Law of the State of New York, the New York State Quality Review Act and 6 NYCRR Part 617, the Planning Board of the Town of Hague, New York (the Planning Board) hereby makes this negative Declaration in respect to the subdivision of Section 25, Block 1, Parcels 17 & 18 into 11 lots which is subject of the Application for a Major Subdivision, dated February 5, 2010, submitted to the Planning Board by Roger Wilson and William Floor (the applicants.) This is based upon the determination of the Planning Board, as required by 6NYCRR Part 617.7 (a) (2), that the identified adverse environmental impacts will not be significant.
In making its review which is the basis for the issuance of this Negative Declaration, the Planning Board, among other things, (i) in addition to its general familiarity with the area by reason of two prior site visits to subject property, and (ii) reviewed the Environmental Assessment form, Part 1, prepared by the project sponsor, (iii) reviewed the Stormwater Management Report and NYS DEC SWPPP , dated February 2010 and amended November 2010, which was prepared by Jarrett Engineers, PLLC for the project sponsor, which relates their observation of soil analysis and design of individual stormwater controls and engineered septic systems for the construction of 10 single family dwellings and driveways, as well as the proposed Cul-de-sac roadway, and (iv) prepared environmental Assessment Form, Part 2, which concluded that there was no potentially large environmental impact involved in the proposed subdivision. Copies of such items (ii), (iii) and (iv) are contained as submitted within the Stormwater Management Report and NYS DEC SWPPP report.
Pursuant to 6 NYCRR Part 617.12 (a), the following is set forth:
(a) This Negative Declaration has been prepared in accordance with Article 8 of the New York State Environmental Conservation Law.
(b) The Lead Agency is the Planning Board of the Town of Hague and its address is 9793 Graphite Mountain Road, P O Box 509, Hague, New York 12836. The name, address and telephone number of the person who can provide further information is Catherine Clark, Zoning Enforcement Officer, 9793 Graphite Mountain Road, P O Box 509, Hague, New York 12836, 518 543-6161 extension 14.
(c) The SEQR classification is Unlisted.
(d) The location of this action is NYS Route 8 and County Route 50, Hague, New York.
BY ORDER OF THE PLANNING BOARD OF THE TOWN OF HAGUE
Duly adopted this 7th day of April, in the
year 2011 by the following vote:
Ayes: 7 Siwek, Clark, Peterson, Cherubini, Fitzgerald, Frasier, &
Brown
Nays: 0
Abstain: 0
Mr. Clark read from the “Reason for Supporting this Negative
Determination” document for the SEQR ‘Notice of Determination
of Non-Significance.”
Mike Cherubini made the motion to temporarily adjourn the regular meeting at
7:11pm. Bruce Clark 2nd the motion.
Roll Call vote: Ayes: EJ Siwek, Richard Frasier, Bruce Clark, Pam Peterson, John Brown, Mike Cherubini and Martin Fitzgerald
Nays: None. Motion passes: 7-0
PUBLIC HEARINGS:
Chairman, EJ Siwek opened the public hearing at 7:12pm
ZEO, Cathy Clark read the following
1. WILSON (25.1-1-17 & 18) Summit Drive & Route 8 (OCI)
The applicant is applying for a Major Subdivision of two parcels equaling 148.8
acres. If approved 10 new residential lots will be created. Lot lines have been
reestablished so that no lot line crosses into or through a wetland and will
maintain a 200 ft setback from the wetland. The project is a Class B regional
project.
EJ Siwek asked for those in favor of the subdivision to be recognized.
Subdivision issues: Subdivision of Lands Chapter 150. Major Subdivision
Chris Navitsky, Lake George Watershed Keeper offered his general support of the project. He also questioned the Planning Board with these following concerns and questions:
1) Would the landowner consider combining some of the driveways?
2) Asked what the width of the proposed cul-de-sac is?
3) Who is going to maintain the storm water basins, the town or county?
4) Can the storm water basins be put closer to the driveways?
5) If any future site plan revisions arise will the applicants come before the Planning Board for review?
6) Are there any plans for lot #10?
Mr. Holmes responded to Mr. Navitsky questions.
1) The storm water basins current plans come off of the driveways. He will look into the possibility of moving the basins closer to the driveways, but with the mandatory separation of stormwater devises and septic fields from wells there are few options.
2) Mr. Holmes stated that he will look into the options that landowner, Mr. Wilson, has regarding the maintenance of the storm water basins. It is currently required that the basins be cleaned out periodically. The owner of the cud-de-sac will be responsible for the maintenance of its stormwater devises.
3) Some of the driveways entrances have been combined along Route 8.
4) Mr. Wilson, the property owner, stated that he has no intentions of development of lot #10, at this time.
ZEO, Cathy Clark stated that any future development that enlarged the size of the building footprint, the position of the septic, changed in stormwater devises or their location or enlarged the area to be cleared the owner’s of the property would have to submit a new Stormwater Plan to the Lake George Park Commission (LGPC) for their approval.
Judy Stock questioned what other agencies have been involved in the process of this application. Mrs. Stock was provided with a list of those agencies. The list is also enclosed with the SEQRA.
Judy Stock also questioned future development regulations. After the Planning Board approves a subdivision the lots become legal residential building lots. As long as the development meets the requirements of the Codes of the Town of Hague and meets any conditions of approval for the subdivision, the owners can receive approval for the development of the lot from the ZEO. Cathy Clark again reassured the audience that if any future development deviates from the approved stormwater plan or the conditions of approval the owners would have to submit the modification to the LGPC and/or the Planning Board for their approval.
Nobody spoke against the application.
Bruce Clark made the motion to temporarily adjourn the Wilson public hearing so Mr. Holms could provide answers from the Lake George Park Commission on stormwater issues. The hearing will be continued at the May 5, 2011 Planning Board meeting. Pam Peterson 2nd the motion.
Roll Call vote: Ayes: EJ Siwek, Richard Frasier, Bruce Clark, Pam Peterson, John Brown, Mike Cherubini and Martin Fitzgerald
Nays: None. Motion passes: 7-0
Chairman, EJ Siwek reopened the Planning Board meeting of April 7, 2011 at 7:30pm.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES: MEETING OF: March 3, 2011
Bruce Clark made the motion to approve the minutes of March 3, 2011 as submitted. John Brown 2nd the motion.
Roll Call vote: Ayes: EJ Siwek, Richard Frasier, Bruce Clark, Pam Peterson, John Brown, Mike Cherubini and Martin Fitzgerald
Nays: None. Motion passes: 7-0
SUBDIVISIONS:
ZEO, Cathy Clark read the following
1. WILSON (25.1-1-17 & 18) Summit Drive & Route 8 (OCI)
The applicant is applying for a Major Subdivision of two parcels equaling 148.8
acres. If approved 10 new residential lots will be created. Lot lines have been
reestablished so that no lot line crosses into or through a wetland and will
maintain a 200 ft setback from the wetland. The project is a Class B regional
project.
Subdivision issues: Subdivision of Lands Chapter 150. Major Subdivision
Chairman, EJ Siwek stated that there are still some unanswered issues regarding
the Wilson application. Mr. Siwek stated that there are still open items with
the Lake George Park Commission, also, overall road ownership issues and design
to that which is the responsibility of the Town Board and finally to identify
any other conditions that may need to put in place by the Planning Board.
Mr. Holmes stated that he is still working through two issues with the Lake George Park Commission. They must be addressed before the LGPC can issue the Stormwater permit for the subdivision.
ZEO, Cathy Clark stated that no resolution was found by the Town Board stating that any road taken by the Town must be paved. Mrs. Clark stated that the engineer for Warren County DPW has stated that the design meets County Standards.
Also, as part of the Wilson file there is a check list with a maintenance agreement from the Lake George Park Commission titled “Construction Sequence Schedule” for the stormwater basins contains an outline of inspections which can be found on the 1st page of appendix #10.
The utility placements are shown to be overhead on the subdivision plat.
The Planning Board will wait to hear from Mr. Holmes regarding
answers from the Lake George Park Commission before proceeding with the public
hearing.
OLD BUSINESS: None
NEW BUSINESS:
ZEO, Cathy Clark read the following:
1. KILLORIN (60.9-1-37) 36 Bobkat Lane (TR-1)
The applicants would like to modify their Nov. 5, 2009 Planning Board approval
to include a ground level deck (built directly under the second story deck.)
According to Roger Smith of the LGPC this addition would not require any
modification to the owner’s Storm water permit.
The ZEO reviewed the application with the Planning Board and
after the review Pam Peterson made the motion to approve the modification to
the application to include a ground level deck with the condition that if the
deck becomes future living space the applicant must come back to the Planning
Board for approval. Bruce Clark 2nd the motion.
Roll Call vote: Ayes: EJ Siwek, Richard Frasier, Bruce Clark, Pam Peterson,
John Brown, Mike Cherubini and Martin Fitzgerald
Nays: None. Motion passes: 7-0
OTHER BUSINESS:
Chairman, EJ Siwek stated that when leaving meetings open for a site visit, the
meeting should not be reopened until the Planning Board members have returned
to the Community Center. The meetings can not continue on private property as
this practice is in violation of the Open Meeting law.
Chris Navitsky invited Planning Board members to the Lake George Watershed
Conference on May 5th from 8:30 am-4:30pm
ADJOURNMENT:
Martin Fitzgerald made the motion to adjourn at 7:50pm. Bruce Clark 2nd the motion.
Roll Call vote: Ayes: EJ Siwek, Richard Frasier, Bruce Clark, Pam Peterson, John Brown, Mike Cherubini and Martin Fitzgerald
Nays: None
Motion passes: 7-0
Respectfully Submitted by,
Kim Coffin
Recording Secretary