TOWN OF HAGUE
PLANNING BOARD MINUTES
NOVEMBER 6, 2008
INTRODUCTION OF BOARD MEMBERS: Chair E J Siwek, Bruce Clark, Pam Peterson, John Brown, Rolly Allen, Dick Frasier, and Martin Fitzgerald, Sr.
PUBLIC HEARINGS: Opened at 7:00 pm
ZEO, Cathy Clark read the following:
1. CLARK (43.5-2-18, 19, & 20) 9015 Lakeshore Drive (Hamlet)
The applicant is requesting a minor subdivision of three lots. If approved a total of 4 lots will be created. Publish date 10-26-08, Post Star
No one spoke for or against the application
John Brown made the motion to close public hearing, Martin Fitzgerald 2nd the motion.
Motion approved 7-0
Hearing closed at 7:05 pm
ZEO, Cathy Clark read the following:
2. RYPKEMA (24-1-2) 263 Summit Drive (OCI/OCII)
The applicant is applying for a two lot subdivision of a 200.23 acre parcel. If approved Lot 1 will consist of 25.81 acres and Lot 2 will contain 174.42 acres. A 300 foot strip of land will provide access to Lot 2 from Summit Drive. Publish date 10-26-08, Post Star
Tim and Karen Costello spoke in favor of the subdivision. No one spoke against the application
Rolly Allen made the motion to close public hearing, John Brown 2nd the motion.
Motion approved 7-0
Hearing closed at 7:08
CALL MEETING TO ORDER : EJ Siwek called the meeting to order at 7:08 pm
INTRODUCTION OF BOARD MEMBERS:
In Attendance: Chair E J Siwek, Bruce Clark, Pam Peterson, John Brown, Rolly Allen, Dick Frasier, and Martin Fitzgerald, Sr.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES: MEETING OF: OCTOBER 2, 2008
Dick Frasier made the motion to approve as amended, Rolly Allen 2nd.the motion.
Roll Call Vote: Ayes- Chair E J Siwek, Bruce Clark, Pam Peterson, John Brown, Rolly Allen, Dick Frasier, and Martin Fitzgerald, Sr.
Nays- 0
Motion to approve passed 7-0
SUBDIVISIONS:
ZEO, Cathy Clark read the following:
1. CLARK (43.5-2-18, 19, & 20) 9015 Lakeshore Drive (Hamlet)
The applicant is requesting a minor subdivision of three lots. If approved a total of 4 lots will be created.
Zoning issue: 150-6 Review of a minor subdivision.
Bruce Clark read the SEQR determination declaring a Negative Declaration upon his review of SEQR criteria. A motion was forwarded to accept a Negative Declaration
Roll Call Vote: Ayes- Chair E J Siwek, Bruce Clark, Pam Peterson, John Brown, Rolly Allen, Dick Frasier, and Martin Fitzgerald, Sr. Nays- 0
Motion to approve passed 7-0
BOARD DISCUSSIONS:
The Board discussed the possible conditions which should be considered for the proposed subdivision. The Board sought to clarify the proper language to note on the plat should the property owner move from a minor to major subdivision in the future. It was agreed to table the discussion until the Town Counsel could review and propose the appropriate language. It was noted that the Board had 62 days from the close of the Clark hearing in which to make their decision. Additional stipulations that the Board discussed included adding a no disturbed zone around steep terrain as well as recording the locations of deeded water rights for Lot 4 spring houses.
ZEO, Cathy Clark read the following:
2. RYPKEMA (24-1-2) 263 Summit Drive (OCI/OCII)
The applicant is applying for a two lot subdivision of a 200.23 Parcel. If approved Lot 1 will consist of 25.81 acres and Lot 2 will contain 174.42 acres. A 30 foot strip of land will provide access to Lot 2 from Summit Drive.
Zoning Issues:150-6 Review of Minor Subdivision.
Rypkema Continued:
BOARD DISCUSSIONS:
The board discussed the same conditions for providing guidance for any future subdivisions of lands that would move the subdivision from a minor to major classification. The Board agreed to await a review by Town Counsel.
No SEQR declaration was made. Bruce Clark agreed to provide a review at the December meeting.
The Board tabled their decision until the December Board meeting.
REFERALS TO THE ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS: None
OLD BUSINESS: None
NEW BUSINESS:
E J Siwek, Chair change the order of the agenda in consideration of the long distance the Hanna’s Architect, Louis Hampl had to travel.
ZEO Cathy Clark read the following:
1. HANNA (60.9-1-25) 83 Pine Cove Rd. (TR-1)
Applicant is requesting an 869 sq. ft addition to the 2nd story of a existing house.
If approved a master bedroom, bath and deck will be added. The house is located within the Sewer District #2.
Zoning issues: 160-23 C. (g) new construction within 100’ of the lake.
Bruce Clark made the motion to deem the application complete, Pam Peterson 2nd.the motion
Roll Call Vote: Ayes- Chair E J Siwek, Bruce Clark, Pam Peterson, John Brown, Rolly Allen, Dick Frasier, and Martin Fitzgerald, Sr. Nays- 0
Motion to approve passed 7-0
A site visit was scheduled for Sat. Nov. 8 2008 at 9:00 am
ZEO, Cathy Clark and Board member Bruce Clark left the Table.
2. The Hague Firehouse Restaurant-Ginn/Delarm (43.5-1-3) Graphite Mountain Rd (Hamlet). The Owners have been asked back to the Planning Board to address the issue of noise based on a condition noted in the Board minutes of June 1, 2006.
Attorney John Breintenbach spoke for Crispin Ginn and Sheri Delarm. He stated that Sheri Delarm agreed to close the exterior doors at 10:30 pm when they had entertainment at the Hague Firehouse Restaurant.
Discussion from the Board, the Clarks and the attorney for the Firehouse Restaurant followed. The Board sought to seek a reasonable resolution in order reduce future noise complaints. At this point, the Board generally agreed that the ability to achieve sound control should be placed on the owners. And that the Board would monitor the conditions moving forward.
The Planning Board then made a motion to give the owners of The Fire House Restaurant, an opportunity to control and improve the noise emanating from the business. Subsequently if the noise remains a problem, then, owners, Crispin Ginn and Sheri Delarm will then be asked to appear back in front of the board for review.
Dick Frasier made the motion to approve, Rolly Allen 2nd the motion.
Roll Call Vote:
Ayes- Chair E J Siwek, Pam Peterson, John Brown, Rolly Allen, Dick Frasier, and Martin Fitzgerald, Sr. Nays- 0,
Recuse: Bruce Clark
Motion to approve passed 6-0-1
OTHER BUSINESS:
ZEO, Cathy Clark and Board member Bruce Clark returned to the Table.
1. Telecommunication Ordinance:
After some discussion of the Board it was decided to table the matter until the December meeting.
2. Report of North Country Stormwater Tradeshow & Conference:
Pam Peterson spoke about the tradeshow and conference, stating that it was interesting and there was a lot of helpful information, suggesting that other board members attend next year’s conference.
ADJOURNMENT:
Rolly Allen made the motion to adjourn the meeting Dick Frasier 2nd.the motion, Roll Call Vote: Ayes- Chair E J Siwek, Bruce Clark, Pam Peterson, John Brown, Rolly Allen, Dick Frasier, and Martin Fitzgerald, Sr. Nays- 0
Motion to passed 7-0