Town of Hague Planning Board
June 5, 2008
Call to order: 7:00 pm
Approval of the minutes of April 3, 2008 Frasier question Peterson’s comment on a memo received by the Board at the adjournment of the meeting, stating it was after the meeting was adjourned. He also suggested that during the discussion of the Engler application comments made by councilman Meola about using the beach property for parking and bathroom facilities were not included. Clerical errors were also noted and incorrect statements were stricken from the record. The Board decided not to approve the minutes until corrections were submitted to the Board.
Chair appoints ZEO, Clark as acting Secretary for the June 5, 2008 meeting
Introduction of the Board: Acting Chair, Rolly Allen, Bruce Clark, John Brown, Pam Peterson, Dick Frasier, and Martin Fitzgerald, Sr.
Absent: EJ Siwek
Also present ZEO, Catherine Clark
Approval of the minutes of May 1, 2008:
Ayes: Rolly Allen, Brown, Peterson, Frasier, and Fitzgerald
Abstain: Clark
Nays: none
Approved 5-0-1 vote
Regular meeting:
SUBDIVISIONS:
ZEO introduces application to the Board:
1. LA POINTE (24-1-43) 9042 Graphite Mountain Road (TR-3/OCII)
The applicant is requesting sketch plan approval of a two lot subdivision of a 40.47 acre parcel. If approved lot 1 would consist of 1.1 acres and lot 2 would consist of 39.37.
Currently lot 1 has a house, garage with a apartment above, and barn on it.
ZEO explains that the applicant would like the opinion of the board before he has the land surveyed. Lot 1 is located in the TR-3 Zoned area. Board discusses the application. Frasier asks applicant if the old ball field is included. La Pointe answers, no. Rolly Allen asks ZEO if 1.1 acres is enough for a house and a garage with apartment. ZEO states that according to section 160-56 of the code book, Multiple- family Dwellings: double the density is required for 2 dwelling units on one parcel. Peterson asks if it will remain multi-family dwelling. Applicant answers yes. Frasier suggests moving the lot lines to create a lot of 2.2 acres. La Pointe is agreeable to the suggestion. Allen states the board shouldn’t create substandard lots based on the 2 dwelling units. The Board asks if the newly created lot could be subdivided in the future? ZEO states unless there is a 20 foot sideline between the buildings it would require a Variance. The septic and well were questioned. ZEO stated that if the capacity of the septic system was adequate for the number of bedrooms in both dwellings, it could be shared. Wells can also be shared by separate dwelling units. Allen asked if the septic is adequate for the number of bedrooms? La Pointe did not know. Bruce Clark stated that this is a request for Sketch Plan so the board can give conceptual approval if the applicant demonstrated the intent of the 2.2 acre lot he intends to create. It is agreed that La Pointe will return to the Planning Board next month with either a new plot plan or the survey, if completed.
NEW BUSINESS:
1. LUKE VENTURES (ENGLER) (43.5-1-26) 9077 Lakeshore Drive (Hamlet)
Tabled at the request of the applicant.
Applicant would like to add a Kayak rental shop to his existing office building.
The Board discusses the application. Warren County referral and the recommendation for a pedestrian crosswalk. Further discussion of the Department of Transportations (DOT) Right-a way.
2. STRUTZ (26.18-1-10) 9222 Lakeshore Drive (TR-1)
ZEO introduces application to the Board:
The applicant would like to place a 8’ x 12’ storage shed 75’ from the Lake.
Zoning issue: 160-23 C (g) new construction within 100’ of the lake.
Requested Architects drawings have been received.
The DOT right-a-way, a site visit and the lot were discussed. Peterson stated that Fitzgerald, Frasier, Brown & she made a site visit: She notes the lot has high visibility from the lake to the road. The planned location for the shed is on ledge and that it would be a difficult to screen. Peterson asked what color it would be. B. Clark asked where color of a structure was in the zoning codes. Frasier stated that he did not believe there was any room on the lot for expansion. Peterson added instead of disturbing new soils why couldn’t he add the storage shed in front of the house when he installs the intended retaining walls. The ZEO indicated: the applicant holding tank is presently in the location suggested and that the stair-step retaining walls to hold the bank back will not be installed until the house is connected to Sewer District # 2. Allen asked how the board could deny this application. ZEO Clark reviews Type I Site Plan Review procedures with the Board. Peterson adds that it is a very scenic walkway and that the visibility of the lake is spectacular at this location. ZEO Clark again reviews the Type 1 Site Plan Review requirements and states that the applicant could install the shed anywhere in the shoreline setback with a basic Land Use Compliance Certificate instead he is asking to place it 75 feet from the lake. The need for the shed, impact on trees, and stormwater for the shed were questioned. Allen ask that the applicant return to the Board and address their concerns: size, location, height, and if he could wait until after Sewer District #2 is installed, so the shed could be built against the house.
The Board discuss a motion to deny at this time, then defers to a request for additional information. The applicant is requested to submit the requested information to the board for the July 10, 2008 meeting. The application was not deemed complete.
OTHER BUSINESS:
1. Dick Frasier asks if the Planning Board can request a review and revision of the Zoning Codes. He would like a committee of the ZBA, the Planning Board and the Town Board to be formed. ZEO states that the last revision was in 1998 and would support the idea. She believes that the request should come from the Planning Board and Zoning Board Chairs. Further discussion by the board occurred with general agreement that modifications to the Codes were needed.
2. Pam Peterson reported on the May 18, 2008 Town of Hague, Department of State Training. She pointed out a sample Planning Board Resolution provided by the DOS to be worth considering. Announcements of the coming Lake George Watershed Conference Training Events were handed out.
Motion to adjourn at 8: 23 pm was made by Frasier and seconded by Fitzgerald
Ayes: Rolly Allen, Clark, Brown, Peterson, Frasier, and Fitzgerald
Nays: none
Respectfully Submitted:
Catherine Clark, Acting Secretary