Town of Hague Planning Board

November 3, 2005

Present: Rolly Allen, Acting Chairman

John Brown, Pam Peterson, Tim Costello, Peter Foster

Absent: David Swanson, Katy Wells

Also in attendance: Cathy Clark, Zoning Enforcement Officer

Nancy Young, Recording Secretary

Rolly Allen called the meeting to order at 7:00 pm.

The following changes were made to the minutes from October 6, 2005:

The first paragraph under Ragot, (42.20-1-6) Lakeshore Dr. TR-2 was amended to read:

Cathy Clark explained to the Board that the information needed to take action on the subdivision at the last meeting was addressed to her at the Town Hall, but was delivered to her home. The submission was timely and the application should not have been rejected by the Planning Board. (See minutes from 9/1/05 and above addendum.) Members reviewed the packet, dated 8/29/05, containing materials related to the dredging/fill and easement issues.

A motion at accept the amended minutes was heard from Tim Costello and seconded by Peter Foster.

Vote: Approved, 5-0

Ragot, (42.20-1-6) Lakeshore Dr. TR-2

The applicant wishes to subdivide a 7.73 acre parcel into four lots, three 1.1 acres and the fourth 4.43 acres. At the 10/06/05 meeting, the application was reinstated and Mr. Ragot has given his permission to extend the time for review. (See amendment above.)

During discussion, Planning Board members made note of several concerns.

The piles of dirt are still on property.
The status of the SPDES permit is unknown.
A drainpipe under the road appears to be blocked, intentionally, on the opposite side of the highway. This raises further concerns for stormwater runoff. (State and county highway departments have been notified, according to Cathy Clark.)

Tim Costello moved to ask Cathy Clark to send a letter to Mr. Ragot and notify him of the concerns. She should request that he provide a new plot plan detailing the road and lot placements and provide data with regard to the drainage of the lots along the road. Peter Foster seconded the motion

Vote: Approved, 5-0

Kostides, (26.17-2-2) Lakeshore Terrace TR-1

Pam Peterson recused herself.

The applicant is looking for preliminary approval for a three lot subdivision of her 4.62 acre property. According to Cathy Clark, Mrs. Kostides has hired a surveyor. A Site Visit will be made to the property on 11/09/05 at 9:00 am.

Belden, (24-1-47) Graphite Mountain Rd. TR-3

The applicant is requesting a 6 ft. fence be placed along his side property lines, beginning 25 ft. from the front (roadside) property line. Existing vegetation within the 25 ft. will remain. At the 10/06/05 Planning Board meeting the property was determined to be a pre-existing, non-conforming commercial use lot. The Ordinance would allow an 8 ft. fence under Section

160-52C. The neighboring property owners have been contacted and have no objections. Cathy Clark agreed to add that documentation to the file.

Peter Foster moved to approve Mr. Belden’s request to put up a 6 ft. fence as proposed in the application. Tim Costello seconded.

Vote: Approved, 5-0

Icke, (16.14-1-16) Waltonian Rd. TR-1

Previous permission has been granted to modify the residence located in Friends Point. (see ZBA minutes from 1/7/05 and the 3/3/05 Planning Board minutes) Because of unstable conditions found on the existing structure, the homeowner is now requesting permission to demolish and rebuild.

Contractor, George Farinick outlined the plans to build on the existing foundation. Mr. Farinick has contacted Chris Navitsky, LG Waterkeeper, to discuss a stormwater management plan. Although no change in the number of bathrooms is expected, he has contacted Adirondack Sanitary to ensure a satisfactory septic system will be in place. Mr. Farinick assured the Board the new building will not exceed the original footprint and he will provide them with sealed drawings for the project, once completed. Board members requested that Mr. Farinick use adequate stormwater protection during both the demolition and construction phases of the project.

Tim Costello made a motion to grant conceptual approval of the proposal based on the information presented:

· Construction will be similar to the plans previously approved.

· It will be on the same footprint.

· The only difference will be the garage.

· There will be a good stormwater plan.

· The septic system will be satisfactory.

· More specific information will be presented in 30 days.

The motion was seconded by Peter Foster.

Vote: Approved, 5-0

Hague Volunteer Fire Department, (25.5-1-16) West Hague Rd. OC-1

Adjourned until the next meeting at the applicants’ request.

Cathy Clark has written to the Fire Department requesting an expected date for completion of the required work, specifically for removal of the macadam over the septic system. The letter also states that work cannot be postponed until spring. According to Ms. Clark, the LGPC is also requesting a completion date for the stormwater plan. All agreed on the need to hasten action on the matter. They requested Ms. Clark write another letter to John Breitenbach, HVFD representative, listing the concerns of the Planning Board and requesting a timetable for action.

Beaty (26.18-1-1.2) Lakeshore Dr. TR-1

The applicants would like to replace a seasonal residence with a year round home. An additional boathouse residence exists on the undersized, non-conforming lot. Building will be within 50 ft. of the shoreline. It was noted that Mr. Beaty has presented several variations to his plan, the most recent dated 11/2/05.

Ensuing discussion centered around measuring square footage. Section 160-62 of the Ordinance allows a 25% increase in living space. Recent Zoning and Planning Board discussions have determined that decks, attics, etc. should be included when calculating shoreline setback restrictions. Based on those discussions, a variance would be needed for the increase in living space.

In keeping with the sketch plan review process, the Board suggested Mr. Beaty consider the following in his proposal:

Septic: All IHH properties share the same (original) leach field.
Scale: The proposed building appears large for the size of the lot. A structure sized more appropriately would have less impact.
Boathouse: Presently is used as a full residence, adding to the non-conformity of the property.
Highway frontage: Exact measurement to the highway is unknown. Documentation should show NYS claim that no ROW exists.

The group reviewed the conditions set forth by the Planning Board during a previous subdivision, (see 10/4/01 Planning Board minutes, IHH Properties, LLC) and the variance allowing the creation of an undersized lot. Question arose about the advisability of amending those conditions. The Board decided to delay further action until the Town Attorney has reviewed the IHH documents.

Under other business:

Beneduce, (42-1-23.1) Dodd Hill Rd. TR-1

Approval of the subdivision at the October 6^th meeting was conditional, based in part on the approval of a LGPC Stormwater Management Plan, archeological approval from the NYS Historic Preservation Office and subject to the satisfaction of Chris Navitsky, LG Waterkeeper. Mr. Navitsky brought the group up to date on the findings of a field meeting held to conduct a test pit for the wet pond, (memo to Cathy Clark dated 10/26/05). According to Mr. Navitsky, the project engineers will revise their plans based on the conditions observed and re-submit them to the LGPC. A vote by the LGPC is expected in late November.

The final opinion from the Historic Preservation Office will be sent to the LGPC who will forward those findings to the Town.

Adjournment

The meeting was adjourned at 9:05 pm on a motion heard from Peter Foster and seconded by Tim Costello.

Vote: Approved, 5-0